Re: [nas] OT: RRRRRRRR Euro Final

Whatever, Jeff.  If you want to attach all sorts of conditions on what 
constitutes legitimate football, that's your right.  As I said, if you 
want to change the rules of the game, start calling Sepp.  For now, the 
Greeks used their limited resources wisely and beat the big guys quite 
legitimately.  There's no better story in sport than when that happens.  
As for Arsenal, you miss the point entirely.  Their wonderful style 
these days doesn't change the fact that they were most notoriously 
defensive team in the English game at one time. 


jeff moore wrote:

> Ah, the  jibes. I so love this nonsense.
>
>  Yes, George Graham was not the most entertaining of managers but at least
> he played a BACK 4.....NOT A BACK 5 like the Greeks!!!!!!! !!!!
>
>  You must have forgotten Rioch in the middle as well. The decades have
> passed Mike.   Get over the Graham years, we have.
>
>  The Greeks play negative "bunker" football.  Since Bora, the US does not!
>
> The only reason we (USA) played "counter=attack" v Mexico was because of the
> short time of rest between matches. How do I know this?  Bruce said so
> exactly! Bruce, to his credit, changed his tactics depending on the rest of
> his players, and the opponent we were playing. Think we played "bunker" ball
> v Germany???  Greece has no change of tactics; they bunker with 5 across the
> back, hack down anything that runs more than 2 yards and hope to score on
> set pieces.  Yes, exciting stuff.
>
>
>   The styles are nothing of the sort compared with the US in 02' except for
> Mexico....and that match we played with 4 across the back,....not 5 like the
> Greeks
>
>
>  Let's be honest here.  Greece played a back 5 and just bunkered. Period.
> Not only that, anyone within an arms reach they pretty well just TOOK
> DOWN!!!  Yes, let's here it for them!  The only thing that amazes me is they
> managed to keep a player from receiving a red card every match, however they
> managed to spread their fouls out evenly throughout the team.  We have the
> nerve to call this "tactical?"
>
> Great, yes, they wont he tournament by playing foil to everyone else's
> football.   yeah rah.  The Italians have been ABUSED on this list for
> playing negative tactics through the years, but now Greece, just because
> they are an underdog,  get plaudits for playing negatively?????
>
>
>    Can't wait to see more of this crap.
>
>
>
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>  
> > From: Mike Babyak <howlingdogtheory@nc.rr.com>
> > To: nas@americakicks.com
> > Subject: Re: [nas] OT: RRRRRRRR Euro Final
> > Date: Mon, Jul 5, 2004, 2:02 PM
> >
> >    
>  
> > Ironic comments coming from an Arsenal fan, a team that until loaded
> > with Frenchmen recently, were the most notoriously "anti-football" in
> > Europe.  How many times did opponents hit the woodwork?  I repeat.  They
> > beat the hosts TWICE, the reigning champs and arguably the best side in
> > the tourney once, drew with Spain.  I daresay the possibilty of results
> > like this, where they don't just hand out the trophy on reputation,
> > makes football all the more attractive to me.   As I noted earlier, the
> > similarity of styles between the Greeks here and USA 02 is unmistakeable.
> >
> > jeff moore wrote:
> >
> >    
> > > Amen.
> > >
> > > They managed to grind out results and ride their luck....yes, when
> > > opposition hit the woodwork so many times and dominate play against you,
> > > you run your luck.  They were playing more talented teams and managed to
> > > turn it into a game of attrition rather than that of football.
> > >
> > > Greece won...the sport was the loser.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------
> > >
> > >
> > >      
> > > > From: tim hanley <timhanley12000@yahoo.com>
> > > > To: hori_too@yahoo.com, List NAS <nas@americakicks.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [nas] OT: RRRRRRRR Euro Final
> > > > Date: Mon, Jul 5, 2004, 12:44 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >        
> > >      
> > > > I am curious as to how the Greeks 'deserve' this
> > > > championship.  Their defensive posture and play
> > > > against those that tried to 'play', those that are
> > > > clearly better sides, France-Rep.Tcheque-Portugal.
> > > >
> > > > Creating is difficult, destroying easy.
> > > >
> > > > Sad day for attacking soccer.
> > > >
> > > > tim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Kirsten <hori_too@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > > > Greece 1 - Portugal 0
> > > > >
> > > > > The goal in the 2nd half was a nice one. A well
> > > > > placed header off a corner
> > > > > kick. It was interesting listening to an abbreviated
> > > > > version of the Greek
> > > > > broadcast. The 'casters could hardly contain
> > > > > themselves after the goal.  I
> > > > > doubt anyone who listened to the pay-per-view call
> > > > > got the same excitement
> > > > > in the voices. :p
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers to the Greeks! They deserve it!
> > > > >
> > > > > Kirsten
> > > > >
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