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[nas] Donovan, Friedel, Reyna finalist for Honda player of the year
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Subject: [nas] Nice Wahl column
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The Yanks are comin
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/grant_wahl/news/2002/09/19/wahl
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Subject: [nas] Winner of Mil/Van series to host A-League final/live on FSW 9-28
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For anyone interested in this nice little story, here are a couple pictur=
es
of the tike ! :-)=0D
=0D
http://public.fotki.com/pattiea/a-league/rhinos__kickers/p9190176.html=0D
http://public.fotki.com/pattiea/a-league/rhinos__kickers/p9190178.html=0D
=0D
As well as the thread I posted for the Richmond folks about this.=0D
=0D
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From: Kirsten Tautfest=0D
Date: Thursday, September 19, 2002 23:44:18=0D
To: nas@americakicks.com=0D
Subject: [nas] Richmond v Rochester [R] (1st leg of East semi)=0D
=0D
Score line at the final whistle: 1 - 1=0D
=0D
Game summary:=0D
http://www.richmondkickers.com/news/0919002Rochestergamesum.htm=0D
=0D
My observations:=0D
Good match overall. There was a questionable call in=0D
the box with a 'back pass' to the Rhino's keeper=0D
(Onstad) in the second half. Questionable in the sense=0D
that it wasn't called and probably wasn't due to the=0D
positioning of the ref and the linesman relative to=0D
the ball. To the officials it appeared as a possible=0D
shot on goal. From my angle, with the "Corner Kicks",=0D
it should have been called.=0D
=0D
Fox (Richmond) got red carded early in the second=0D
half. So he will not be available. Demin played a good=0D
portion of the match limping slightly. I think the=0D
only reason that the Rhinos coach did not pull him is=0D
that it may have left a gaping hole in the Rhino's=0D
back line. =0D
=0D
It became clear to me that the main reason that Onstad=0D
had a .75 GAA going into tonight's matchup was due to=0D
the defensive style of play of the Rhinos. Counter=0D
then drop back on D. (Kind of reminded me of MLS Cup=0D
2000, but that's another matter . . .) =0D
=0D
Richmond appeared flatfooted for most of the match.=0D
They need to pick it up if they want to make it past=0D
Rochester to get to Milwaukee. They will be without=0D
Fox, despite being a Defender, he pushed far up the=0D
right wing on the attack. The red card was for a=0D
'last man' offense. Not too rough but the right call,=0D
nonetheless. Henderson scored the goal for Richmond.=0D
They also used all five of their subs. I belive the=0D
Rhinos only used 2.=0D
=0D
=0D
The crowd was nice (3327). A little quiet from time=0D
to time compared to what I'm used to (i.e. wall of=0D
noise). The weather was perfect.=0D
=0D
Other cute observation:=0D
At halftime I noticed a little kid no older than 3=0D
dart past me. He paused and looked toward the pitch=0D
then took off running down the wheelchair ramp. I=0D
glanced over and thought that I spotted his dad who=0D
was engrossed in conversation with friends. Next thing=0D
I know, the kid had slipped through the field gate=0D
near the base of the ramp and was trotting to where=0D
the Kicker bench was warming up. He proceded to warm=0D
up with them. Jogging back and forth and even trying=0D
to run backwards. The Kicker who was nearest the=0D
pressbox side corner was having fun with the kid. Like=0D
it was all normal. Dad finally notices the kid missing=0D
and someone points out to the field. Dad was probably=0D
relieved and amused at the same time. He went down to=0D
the gate and was allowed on the track to get the kid.=0D
The kid didn't come off until it was time to clear the=0D
field for the second half. The kid didn't want to go.=0D
He was having too much fun and wanted to "tell" all=0D
the Kickers who were nearby goodluck with a=0D
"high-five". =0D
Ah, the unintentional halftime shows are the best. :)=0D
=0D
I had a good time. =0D
=0D
If any Corner Kickers are on this list, thank you for=0D
letting me hang out with you. Cheers!=0D
=0D
Kirsten=0D
=0D
=0D
=0D
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o
re Section 8.=0D
=0D
"Playing with fire is bad for those who end up burning themselves. For
everyone else, it's a great pleasure."=0D
--- Leon Daudet=0D
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<DIV>For anyone interested in this nice little story, here are a co=
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<DIV><A=20
href=3D"http://public.fotki.com/pattiea/a-league/rhinos__kickers/p9=
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<DIV>As well as the thread I posted for the Richmond folks about=20
this.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><A=20
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<DIV> </DIV>Score line at the final whistle: 1 - 1<BR><BR>Game=
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Subject: [nas] MLS Newslinks 09-20 (16)
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DC's Alavanja injured in car acident
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MLS Newsstand 9-20 (10)
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-- Finalists Chosen for Honda Award (New York Times)
-- MetroStars will call Newark home for playoffs (Jersey Journal)
Palace:The Clean Sheet, Is Cletus El Loco
http://www.mlsnet.com/content/02/tino0919palace.html
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Dieffenbach: Struggling to the finish
http://www.soccer365.com/US_home/Major_League_Soccer/page_24_39259.shtml
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Rules in review: Denial of a goal scoring opprotunity<BR>
http://www.mlsnet.com/content/02/mls0919denial.html<BR>
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It might have been Seamus Malin(sp?) who said 'the FIFA rankings are good
for one thing only--starting pub arguments.'
I think his theory is holding up pretty well :)
All in fun, gentle-people. Please, no flames.
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It might have been Seamus Malin(sp?) who said 'the FIFA rankings are good
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I think his theory is holding up pretty well :)
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Subject: Re: [nas] Metro to play in Newark if they make the playoffs
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Article posted earlier said stadium will be configured
for soccer and cap expanded to 8500.
A good reason to raise ticket prices a bit. Scarcity
needs to be emphasized by the Metro's marketing and
ticket sales staff. Plus season ticket holders should
be able to have first dibs on tix before public sale
-- given the short time period - maybe only a weekday
like Monday. Then Tuesday full sale.
The MLS needs smaller venues. Granted this is a bit
too small. Even 15K is a wee bit small for Chicago.
20-25K expandable to 30K is ideal and on par with the
vast majority of soccer stadia in the world.
Wizardofold, large rock events such as the Rollings
Stones typically have a long set up time in advance of
the actual performance, then tear down. I worked site
security at Soldier Field for the Stones and U2. This
is no little load in beginning at 8am and be ready for
a 7pm show we are dealing with here. To build the
lighting towers, set up chairs, all the special
effects, etc takes many many days. The Giants
henceforth are on the road during this time also. Just
be grateful the Metrostars and whoever they will meet
in the playoffs (should they get there) will not be
playing on the trashed field. Oh yeah, it will be
resodded I'm sure, but not enough for it to take
proper hold in the ground and will look awful after 1
quarter of marching up and down the field.
Kirsten
--- AbraRob@aol.com wrote:
> At least they are re-sodding the infield.
> Also, no cheap tickets. $25 mimum in advance. Season
> ticketholders are the
> beneficiaries, especially the ones who bought he
> cheap seats ($15 aprox.),
> like me.
> One thing that will fun, ESC will sound be pretty
> loud in that place. Just
> hope they keep the cursing to a minimum as they're
> might be lots of kids.
> Cheers!
> Robert.
>
> In a message dated 9/20/02 2:58:29 AM,
> TheWizardofld@aol.com writes:
>
> << Because the NJSEA does not care one bit about the
> MetroStars, and booked
> the
> Rolling Stones fo an entire month, the Metros have
> been forced to plans for
> an alternate site incase they make the playoffs.
> The Metros will play in
> Newarks Riverfront Stadium, a minor league baseball
> stadium. I am not 100%
> sure of the attendance but will say off hand that it
> is 10,000 max! >>
>
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Subject: Re: [nas] Hey Bruce --
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In the immigration statues, last I checked, there is a
clause stating that citizenship can be rushed for a
sports player.
--- Niall Swan <nialls@rcn.com> wrote:
> Anyway, if a player is young, and he is good he
> could still play for the
> US. Three years after marrying someone (if he was on
> a green card) he can
> become a US Citizen. Or if not the marrying type, 5
> years after being here
> by himself, he can become a U.S. citizen. So, if I
> am 20, I could become a
> US nats player by 24-26 - lots of time to develop my
> game. So the door
> ain't shut!
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yup, for sure in other countries, and that sounds right for the US too.
Thanks Kirsten - do we have an immigration lawyer in our midst ;-)
Niall
The Soccer Resort
www.soccerresort.com
Soccer Vacations in the Sun
At 10:05 AM 9/20/02 -0700, Kirsten Tautfest wrote:
>In the immigration statues, last I checked, there is a
>clause stating that citizenship can be rushed for a
>sports player.
>
>--- Niall Swan <nialls@rcn.com> wrote:
> > Anyway, if a player is young, and he is good he
> > could still play for the
> > US. Three years after marrying someone (if he was on
> > a green card) he can
> > become a US Citizen. Or if not the marrying type, 5
> > years after being here
> > by himself, he can become a U.S. citizen. So, if I
> > am 20, I could become a
> > US nats player by 24-26 - lots of time to develop my
> > game. So the door
> > ain't shut!
> >
>
>
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I had thought MLS had no choice but to treat green card holders the same
as citizens because of discrimination/employment laws. A green card
means you are entitled to work in this country on the same basis as
citizens, and to not hire someone because he is not a citizen is to
discriminate on the basis of national origin.
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Subject: [nas] Hey Bruce -- p!ss off!
Deep in this wonderful article about the USA WC effort, you get a few
words from our boy Bruce.
On MLS's decision to allow green-card holders not to count as
international
players: "The green-card ruling is not in the best interests of the
national team. Look at Dallas. How many of those guys are Americans? But
that's life."
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/grant_wahl/news/2002/09/19/
wahl
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You have a problem with exactly who now? Chris GBandi ought to be
considered for the US national team and Oscar Pareja loves the Burn more
than any player in this league loves their team -- and I challenge
anyone to show otherwise.
First off, let's answer your rhetorical question. Matt Jordan, Jason
Kreis, Paul Broome, Ryan Suarez, Bobby Rhine, Eddie Johnson, Chad
Deering -- of the ones getting regular or semi-regular pt. (I will
admit, I am not completely sure about Antonio Martinez.)
Second, what is the point? Where is the US player who isn't getting pt
because of those players? Granted, there could be a problem if you had
three SIs and eights players with green cards, but you don't have that.
Or what about your favorite player, Marco Etcheverry? You know, the one
who is now out of the playoffs -- again? Doesn't he have a green card?
And let's turn that around -- Marco has his kids here. What if they (or
other soccer-talented-parent-raised-kids) turn out to be as good as
their parents and want to play well for the US? Are you going to turn
them down because their parents weren't "born citizens"?
Last I checked, Bruce, this was supposed to still be the land of
opportunity, and what better way to develop and grow the talent base
than bringing in players willing to come to what used to be and to a
certain extent still is a second-rate but growing and developing league?
Do you think this league would be anywhere without El Pibe, El Diablo,
Leonel Alvarez, Mauricio Cienfuegos, Robert Warzycha, Carlos EFFIN
Llamosa!!!!, Jaime Moreno, Peter Nowak, Diego Gutierrez, etc.?
Or where would Landon have been if all he had to play against and with
while growing up in Cali were anglos?
It is a strength, not a weakness, @$$hole!
Someone might want to point this obvious blind spot to him -- good as he
is, it is this kind of idiocy that will keep the US from truly becoming
a world power. It really is that simple.
But hey. Lo que sea.
So Sez Drummer Boy http://flashpages.prodigy.net/klindstr/home.html
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--- big_dog@fastmail.fm wrote:
>
>
>
> DC's Alavanja injured in car acident
> http://www.mlsnet.com/content/02/dc0919alavanja.html
Ow, I know what a broken collarbone (aka clavicle)
feels like.
I hope that he has a speedy recovery and is back in
fine form for 2003. :)
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No, but I know a Barn Burner who is one.
Plus I read them a couple of years ago myself since I
was married to a Mexican.
--- Niall Swan <nialls@rcn.com> wrote:
> yup, for sure in other countries, and that sounds
> right for the US too.
> Thanks Kirsten - do we have an immigration lawyer in
> our midst ;-)
>
> Niall
>
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>
>
>
>
> At 10:05 AM 9/20/02 -0700, Kirsten Tautfest wrote:
> >In the immigration statues, last I checked, there
> is a
> >clause stating that citizenship can be rushed for a
> >sports player.
> >
> >--- Niall Swan <nialls@rcn.com> wrote:
> > > Anyway, if a player is young, and he is good he
> > > could still play for the
> > > US. Three years after marrying someone (if he
> was on
> > > a green card) he can
> > > become a US Citizen. Or if not the marrying
> type, 5
> > > years after being here
> > > by himself, he can become a U.S. citizen. So, if
> I
> > > am 20, I could become a
> > > US nats player by 24-26 - lots of time to
> develop my
> > > game. So the door
> > > ain't shut!
> > >
> >
> >
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> myself on Wild Chicago
> >re Section 8.
> >
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> burning themselves. For
> >everyone else, it's a great pleasure."
> > --- Leon Daudet
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To: "Jack Kaufmann" <jk649@bellatlantic.net>,<nas@americakicks.com>
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But this is different, when representing your country. Just like you need
to be naturalized when you work for the department of state (albeit
representing at a different level).
This is the land of opportunity - but you gotta be American (legally at
least) to represent America!
Niall
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At 01:10 PM 9/20/02 -0400, Jack Kaufmann wrote:
>I had thought MLS had no choice but to treat green card holders the same
>as citizens because of discrimination/employment laws. A green card
>means you are entitled to work in this country on the same basis as
>citizens, and to not hire someone because he is not a citizen is to
>discriminate on the basis of national origin.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nas-owner@americakicks.com [mailto:nas-owner@americakicks.com] On
>Behalf Of Kevin Lindstrom
>Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:57 PM
>To: NAS; Burn List
>Subject: [nas] Hey Bruce -- p!ss off!
>
>
>Deep in this wonderful article about the USA WC effort, you get a few
>words from our boy Bruce.
>
>On MLS's decision to allow green-card holders not to count as
>international
>players: "The green-card ruling is not in the best interests of the
>national team. Look at Dallas. How many of those guys are Americans? But
>that's life."
>
>http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/grant_wahl/news/2002/09/19/
>wahl
>_mailbag/
>
>You have a problem with exactly who now? Chris GBandi ought to be
>considered for the US national team and Oscar Pareja loves the Burn more
>than any player in this league loves their team -- and I challenge
>anyone to show otherwise.
>
>First off, let's answer your rhetorical question. Matt Jordan, Jason
>Kreis, Paul Broome, Ryan Suarez, Bobby Rhine, Eddie Johnson, Chad
>Deering -- of the ones getting regular or semi-regular pt. (I will
>admit, I am not completely sure about Antonio Martinez.)
>
>Second, what is the point? Where is the US player who isn't getting pt
>because of those players? Granted, there could be a problem if you had
>three SIs and eights players with green cards, but you don't have that.
>
>Or what about your favorite player, Marco Etcheverry? You know, the one
>who is now out of the playoffs -- again? Doesn't he have a green card?
>
>And let's turn that around -- Marco has his kids here. What if they (or
>other soccer-talented-parent-raised-kids) turn out to be as good as
>their parents and want to play well for the US? Are you going to turn
>them down because their parents weren't "born citizens"?
>
>Last I checked, Bruce, this was supposed to still be the land of
>opportunity, and what better way to develop and grow the talent base
>than bringing in players willing to come to what used to be and to a
>certain extent still is a second-rate but growing and developing league?
>Do you think this league would be anywhere without El Pibe, El Diablo,
>Leonel Alvarez, Mauricio Cienfuegos, Robert Warzycha, Carlos EFFIN
>Llamosa!!!!, Jaime Moreno, Peter Nowak, Diego Gutierrez, etc.?
>
>Or where would Landon have been if all he had to play against and with
>while growing up in Cali were anglos?
>
>It is a strength, not a weakness, @$$hole!
>
>Someone might want to point this obvious blind spot to him -- good as he
>is, it is this kind of idiocy that will keep the US from truly becoming
>a world power. It really is that simple.
>
>But hey. Lo que sea.
>
>So Sez Drummer Boy http://flashpages.prodigy.net/klindstr/home.html
>
>
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I think you're talking about a couple of different things.
In MLS Green Card holders do not count against the foreign player limit
(of 3). This is due to the labor laws of the US. If you have a green
card, then you are -- employment wise-- the same as a citizen. You can
work and live here.
Representing the US in national soccer matches has nothing, directly,
to do with the imigration or labor laws of the USA. The rules governing
who can play for what country are determined by FIFA.
Niall Swan wrote:
> But this is different, when representing your country. Just like you
> need to be naturalized when you work for the department of state
> (albeit representing at a different level).
>
> This is the land of opportunity - but you gotta be American (legally
> at least) to represent America!
>
> Niall
>
> The Soccer Resort
> www.soccerresort.com
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>
> At 01:10 PM 9/20/02 -0400, Jack Kaufmann wrote:
>
>> I had thought MLS had no choice but to treat green card holders the same
>> as citizens because of discrimination/employment laws. A green card
>> means you are entitled to work in this country on the same basis as
>> citizens, and to not hire someone because he is not a citizen is to
>> discriminate on the basis of national origin.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nas-owner@americakicks.com [mailto:nas-owner@americakicks.com] On
>> Behalf Of Kevin Lindstrom
>> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:57 PM
>> To: NAS; Burn List
>> Subject: [nas] Hey Bruce -- p!ss off!
>>
>>
>> Deep in this wonderful article about the USA WC effort, you get a few
>> words from our boy Bruce.
>>
>> On MLS's decision to allow green-card holders not to count as
>> international
>> players: "The green-card ruling is not in the best interests of the
>> national team. Look at Dallas. How many of those guys are Americans? But
>> that's life."
>>
>> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/grant_wahl/news/2002/09/19/
>> wahl
>> _mailbag/
>>
>> You have a problem with exactly who now? Chris GBandi ought to be
>> considered for the US national team and Oscar Pareja loves the Burn more
>> than any player in this league loves their team -- and I challenge
>> anyone to show otherwise.
>>
>> First off, let's answer your rhetorical question. Matt Jordan, Jason
>> Kreis, Paul Broome, Ryan Suarez, Bobby Rhine, Eddie Johnson, Chad
>> Deering -- of the ones getting regular or semi-regular pt. (I will
>> admit, I am not completely sure about Antonio Martinez.)
>>
>> Second, what is the point? Where is the US player who isn't getting pt
>> because of those players? Granted, there could be a problem if you had
>> three SIs and eights players with green cards, but you don't have that.
>>
>> Or what about your favorite player, Marco Etcheverry? You know, the one
>> who is now out of the playoffs -- again? Doesn't he have a green card?
>>
>> And let's turn that around -- Marco has his kids here. What if they (or
>> other soccer-talented-parent-raised-kids) turn out to be as good as
>> their parents and want to play well for the US? Are you going to turn
>> them down because their parents weren't "born citizens"?
>>
>> Last I checked, Bruce, this was supposed to still be the land of
>> opportunity, and what better way to develop and grow the talent base
>> than bringing in players willing to come to what used to be and to a
>> certain extent still is a second-rate but growing and developing league?
>> Do you think this league would be anywhere without El Pibe, El Diablo,
>> Leonel Alvarez, Mauricio Cienfuegos, Robert Warzycha, Carlos EFFIN
>> Llamosa!!!!, Jaime Moreno, Peter Nowak, Diego Gutierrez, etc.?
>>
>> Or where would Landon have been if all he had to play against and with
>> while growing up in Cali were anglos?
>>
>> It is a strength, not a weakness, @$$hole!
>>
>> Someone might want to point this obvious blind spot to him -- good as he
>> is, it is this kind of idiocy that will keep the US from truly becoming
>> a world power. It really is that simple.
>>
>> But hey. Lo que sea.
>>
>> So Sez Drummer Boy http://flashpages.prodigy.net/klindstr/home.html
>>
>>
>>
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http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/20/sports/ncaafootball/20VECS.html?tntemail1
An interesting bit from the article to stir things up:
Walton played both sports at the Bishop's School in San Diego --
football in the fall, soccer in the spring. He was all-state in football
as a senior, but received only one scholarship offer, from Fresno State.
So he enrolled at Notre Dame to play soccer, with the promise that he
could try out for football eventually.
He had 10 goals and 7 assists as a freshman, but said, with no trace of
brashness, that "college soccer was a step down" from club soccer.
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In a message dated Fri, 20 Sep 2002 9:04:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, SK131281@exchange.DAYTONOH.NCR.com writes:
> THAT is what MLS needs to sell ! I think my ribs hurt just from seeing Bonseau (sp?) crash into the post.
>
Ouch, that one hurt and I was surprised he kept going afterwards.
> A cracker of a match - although the playoffs aren't quite the same w/out DCU.
>
I'll shed a tear for them...but only one. ;-)
> Importantly for the National Squad (maybe...), did Ben Olsen look damn good, or was it just me ?
>
Good to see that guy running at full speed again.
> Forza Crew from here on out !!
>
Naaaa.
Ed :-)
> ps - Those who say Robbie Fowler is the ugliest man in
> football have never seen Etch.
>
Why do you think they call him El Diablo?
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Funny, he looks just like dono!
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Thanks for the link, Chris. Maybe no NFL teams will want to draft Shane
because of his size and soccer will have chance to get him back. But I
imagine he would rather try his luck as a walk-on at NFL camp than get
by on a P-40 salary.
Chris Hilton wrote:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/20/sports/ncaafootball/20VECS.html?tntemail1
>
> An interesting bit from the article to stir things up:
>
> Walton played both sports at the Bishop's School in San Diego --
> football in the fall, soccer in the spring. He was all-state in football
> as a senior, but received only one scholarship offer, from Fresno State.
> So he enrolled at Notre Dame to play soccer, with the promise that he
> could try out for football eventually.
>
> He had 10 goals and 7 assists as a freshman, but said, with no trace of
> brashness, that "college soccer was a step down" from club soccer.
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On 20 Sep 2002 at 10:14, Kirsten Tautfest wrote:
> Ow, I know what a broken collarbone (aka clavicle)
> feels like.
Me too, Kirsten. I broke mine about a year and a half ago, and it took me
2 months to be ready to go again (but I'm a lot older than Alavanja).
> I hope that he has a speedy recovery and is back in
> fine form for 2003. :)
Unfortunately for him and DCU, that's when it will have to be.
Cheers, Chris
Christpher S. Allen
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"back in fine form"
Was he ever?
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On 20 Sep 2002 at 10:14, Kirsten Tautfest wrote:
> Ow, I know what a broken collarbone (aka clavicle)
> feels like.
Me too, Kirsten. I broke mine about a year and a half ago, and it took me
2 months to be ready to go again (but I'm a lot older than Alavanja).
> I hope that he has a speedy recovery and is back in
> fine form for 2003. :)
Unfortunately for him and DCU, that's when it will have to be.
Cheers, Chris
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In a message dated 9/20/2002 9:17:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
popeye_mb@hotmail.com writes:
> It might have been Seamus Malin(sp?) who said 'the FIFA rankings are good
> for one thing only--starting pub arguments.'
> I think his theory is holding up pretty well :)
That is about the most logical thing I've heard said during the whole
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FRIDAY - SEPTEMBER 20, 2002
WUSA ALL-STAR MATCH
4pm ET on PAX
Live from Portland, OR.
Rosters available at http://www.wusa.com
Kansas City Wizards at Colorado Rapids - 9:00 p.m. ET
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SATURDAY - SEPTEMBER 21, 2002
MetroStars at New England Revolution - 7:30 p.m. ET
MSG, FOX Sports New England
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SUNDAY - SEPTEMBER 22, 2002
Columbus Crew at Chicago Fire - 4:00 p.m. ET
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Subject: Re: [nas] Hey Bruce -- p!ss off!
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--- Casbahman@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 9/19/2002 8:58:08 PM Pacific
> Daylight Time,
> klindstr@flash.net writes:
>
>
> > And let's turn that around -- Marco has his kids
> here. What if they (or
> > other soccer-talented-parent-raised-kids) turn out
> to be as good as their
> > parents and want to play well for the US? Are you
> going to turn them down
> > because their parents weren't "born citizens"?
>
[casbahman's response deleted because I want to
address something specific in the above section of
Kevin's original post.]
If Marco or any other player, green carded or not, has
children born in the US the United States considers
them United States citizens. There used to be a
period of waiting while that status was temporary
until the child was old enough (16 or 18) to make a
choice of citizenship I think but I do not know if
that is still in effect. Any child born in the US can
be considered elligible to play for the US NT programs
right up until he/she has chosen to play for another
countrie's national team.
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On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Chris Allen wrote:
> On 16 Sep 2002 at 21:48, Bill Quigley wrote:
>
> > At 07:46 PM 9/16/2002 -0700, Jay Hipps wrote:
> > >Somebody at MLS spent a lot of time putting this together...
> >
> >
> > Reminds me of the NFL playoff scenarios that you see in the papers late in
> > the season.
>
> I'm still waiting for an explantion for why it's not: 1) Points, 2)
> Goal Diff, and 3) Goals Scored.
My guesses would be:
1. Unbalanced schedule makes goal differential less useful (Of course it
also has the same effect on points).
2. Goal differential might be easier to manipulate (teams may find it
advantageous to intentionally allow goals to affect the playoff seeding
and face an opponent of their choice).
3. That's how the other leagues here do it.
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